Watch the full keynote here:
Serverpod 2.2 introduces a new testing framework plus two experimental features. Read more in our documentation.
Watch the full keynote here:
Serverpod 2.2 introduces a new testing framework plus two experimental features. Read more in our documentation.
Very cool. I’m very much rooting for Serverpod.
Thank you, Eric! We are moving forward really fast, so expect more great features in the near future.
am going to use it for my next project
anxiously awaiting the public beta of serverpod cloud.
available this fall…
You guys should really create something like PowerSync, but smarter. Offline-first is a must for our apps (currently at +10 million downloads).
this.
every mobile app we have written (fifteen years running) is offline-first. we have implemented record stamps, table stamps, and global stamps, merging, etc. to manage these, but, yes, auto-management would be great with serverpod.
i just opened issue 3009 about this idea
@mikey We are working really hard on getting Serverpod Cloud out to everyone. It’s currently in private beta, but there are a few things still missing until we can release it to everyone (mostly measuring usage and billing). It’s unfortunately been taking a bit longer to pull everything together than we initially thought. Turns out that many solutions in GCP takes quite some tweaking to get to scale to thousands of apps.
@anon92706177 We have taken the first steps towards offline-first capabilities with our streaming method interface, which will act as the foundation for this feature. It’s something we’re really excited about building, but it’s hard to give an exact timeline yet (Serverpod Cloud is top priority).
Serverpod Cloud
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This is very bad news.
Clouds are slow and expensive.
I have 10 million users and a USD 89 OVH server (which is also responsible for our Forum with 6586306 users using PHP & MySQL).
Auth0 would charge me USD 1600/month just for authentication for 100k users (more than that is “contact us”). Send emails? Another USD 1000/month. Supabase? Another USD 900.
Clouds are evil.
so don’t use it. you can host serverpod yourself.
for small installs, i think the cloud option is a faster/cheaper option to get moving before moving to self-hosting.
I can totally relate to your view but it very much depends on the policy of the cloud or PaaS vendor. And it depends on the size of your project and if the cloud allows a self hosted opt3so that you can switch if you want to but you can enjoy the comfort of not administering a server when you start.
Furthermore and that’s important, Servepod cloud will be enable the development team behind Servepod to sustainable maintain a great OSS project.
Without that OSS projects of this size rarely survive long.
@anon92706177 as mentioned above, the power of Serverpod is that the complete framework is open source. You can host it anywhere you can run Dart and have access to internet.
Serverpod Cloud will allow users (of any size) to get their servers up and running in minutes with zero configuration. Just choose your configuration and do a serverpod cloud deploy
For many companies, the cost of managing your servers (a potential SRE hire) far outweighs the cost of using a cloud service. As we are doing things on a larger scale, we will be able to provide hosting which is less expensive than if you’d host it yourself on GCP or AWS.
OK. If it doesn’t cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (yes, Firebase, I’m looking at you), then ok.
Just don’t abandon OSS, as many did before.
There are multiple successful examples of a commercial company backing OSS projects.
We’re aiming to offer Serverpod Cloud at the same price point or less than if you’d host it yourself on GCP or AWS. And yes, it’s a proven business model for many open source tools.
This isn’t a thread about the validity of clouds - it’s a thread about a full-stack framework which offers a mechanism to deploy the server half of one’s code since obviously many developers will want that.
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